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Name: Diane | Gender: Female | Age: 27 | Posts: 142 | Roses: 10
Old 08-13-2008 at 05:57 PM
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Yeah I look young too. I look about 14 normally, but if I do my makeup and clothes and hair in a very sophisticated way I can come off as about 20.
Happened the whole time I was in London.

But I agree everyone wears a mask.
These days, emotional expression is typically frowned upon.
I grew up constantly hearing "stop crying" "dont be so sensitive" and "grow a thicker skin."
Now my mask is one of stoicness, blankness and refusal to accept emotions.
I didn't cry at my grandmothers funeral. I refused to. I never cry over guys because I refuse to.

When my mask comes off though, I am the same emotionally vulnerable kid I used to be. I lose my mask and I become a very mean, loud, angry person.




Thankfully the only person who so far has made me lose my mask is my Dad.

And I think everyone is like this these days.

i grew up hearing the same things. stop crying and wut not. and when i was about 5 and in fostercare i refused to cry, i had to stay strong for my lil brother. so i wore my smiling mask the day i found out i would never see my mother agian. i loved my mother and still do, she died later on when i was in the 7th grade, and for once i finally had an excuse to take off my mask and cry. no one could yell at me for it then. so i cried then and i cried when a few of my friends died. but everyday one has to smile like nothing is wrong. todays world is messed up. even when i was a lil kid and i would fall down and get hurt the grown ups always said stop crying dont be a baby. ppl today force others to wear a mask. no one wants to see sumone crying so they insult them if they do. well im not like that. everyone knows they need not wear a mask around me, but as for the rest of the world.....everyone is wearing a mask it seems.


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Old 08-13-2008 at 06:48 PM
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This is where I thought Christine was pretty cruel. Even from my very first glimpse into this story I thought, 'why would she do that to him?!' No one wants to be revealed like that so harshly. It's even more devastating when the one who does this is someone very special to you. :(


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Old 08-14-2008 at 01:37 AM
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i grew up hearing the same things. stop crying and wut not. and when i was about 5 and in fostercare i refused to cry, i had to stay strong for my lil brother. so i wore my smiling mask the day i found out i would never see my mother agian. i loved my mother and still do, she died later on when i was in the 7th grade, and for once i finally had an excuse to take off my mask and cry. no one could yell at me for it then. so i cried then and i cried when a few of my friends died. but everyday one has to smile like nothing is wrong. todays world is messed up. even when i was a lil kid and i would fall down and get hurt the grown ups always said stop crying dont be a baby. ppl today force others to wear a mask. no one wants to see sumone crying so they insult them if they do. well im not like that. everyone knows they need not wear a mask around me, but as for the rest of the world.....everyone is wearing a mask it seems.
Agreed.
People fear and deny emotions and pretend they don't have them,
it's pathetic really, but I have no right to talk seeing as I'm really bad for that.

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This is where I thought Christine was pretty cruel. Even from my very first glimpse into this story I thought, 'why would she do that to him?!' No one wants to be revealed like that so harshly. It's even more devastating when the one who does this is someone very special to you.
Also very true.
It's almost like it wasn't any of her business.
I know one of my personal pet peeves is when people go through my sketchbook without asking, like they own it or something. They just pick it up and root through it. Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of my art, but some of the stuff in there is really sensitive subject matter, bordering on disturbing at times.
To me, the feeling I get when someone just blatantly goes through my stuff is how Erik would feel about Christine and her curiousity allowing her to remove his mask in such a sudden, unkind way.


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Old 08-14-2008 at 05:00 AM
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I agree: It would have been so much more appropriate to ask (even beg) him to remove the mask as the Christine in the 1991 miniseries did. Erik probably wouldn't have given in though...but still yanking it off was pretty cold.


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Old 08-14-2008 at 06:17 AM
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Agreed.
People fear and deny emotions and pretend they don't have them,
it's pathetic really, but I have no right to talk seeing as I'm really bad for that.



Also very true.
It's almost like it wasn't any of her business.
I know one of my personal pet peeves is when people go through my sketchbook without asking, like they own it or something. They just pick it up and root through it. Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of my art, but some of the stuff in there is really sensitive subject matter, bordering on disturbing at times.
To me, the feeling I get when someone just blatantly goes through my stuff is how Erik would feel about Christine and her curiousity allowing her to remove his mask in such a sudden, unkind way.
YES!! ik right? they jus grab the sketch book and look through it and always get pictures out of order and what not. like they own it or sumthin. im proud of my work too, but at least ask, its only polite!


*In every shadow there is light, in every tear a smile. In death I know there still is life that lingers for awhile.*-Anonymous

●I am but a mere black rose....I am but the shadow that cloaks the night, forever bond to darkness...yet am I really such a fright?●

"Death, that hath sucked the honey of thy breath, hath had no power yet upon thy beauty." -Romeo

"I felt myself shrinking and shriveling before her clear, candid gaze. I was once more that small boy, twisting a napkin around my finger in absolute terror that my request would be denied. Such a little thing, really, a kiss...most people don't give it a moment's consideration. They kiss on meeting, they kiss on parting, that simple touching of flesh is taken entirely for granted as a basic human right."-Erik from Susan Kay's Phantom-
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Old 08-14-2008 at 06:46 AM
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YES!! ik right? they jus grab the sketch book and look through it and always get pictures out of order and what not. like they own it or sumthin. im proud of my work too, but at least ask, its only polite!
Yeah and then they see something weird and go "wtf goes on in your head?" and act all disturbed and it's like... you chose to look at it doorknob...


But yeah.
That is EXACTLY what it's like. You don't wanna be disgusted by what's underneath, don't let your curiousity get the best of you.


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Old 08-14-2008 at 01:36 PM
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Agreed. I HATE it to bts when people pick up my journals, diaries and Artbooks like they're on public display or somthing. Honestly, hadn't these people ever heard of PRIVACY before???

I mean, my Journal and my artbook is very special to me. It' has a lot of thigs which are related to POTO yes, but then ty have my rants and confessions about touchy subects, and to have people ogle at it just makes me really angry.

And yes, they act all weird too whenever they come across a particularily 'mental-absense' piece of entry, and they start reading it out. Then the whole freaking class looks at youif you're a raving lunatic. I mean, I do rant but I don't need it to be publically advertised.

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Yes, I think that Chistine was cruel unmasking Erik like that in front of the whole audience and cast. I mean, come on girl. You saw his face before, and you know how protective of it he is, and yet you still chose to strip away his comfort. That's cruelty at it's peak.



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Old 08-14-2008 at 05:31 PM
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Yes, I think that Chistine was cruel unmasking Erik like that in front of the whole audience and cast. I mean, come on girl. You saw his face before, and you know how protective of it he is, and yet you still chose to strip away his comfort. That's cruelty at it's peak.
I agree. Unmasking him the first time down in his lair was one thing, but then unmasking him again in front of everyone was just so cruel! Not saying of course the first time wasn't wrong either, but he let it slide only because she was curious. You wonder why he would want anything to do with her after the 2nd unmasking. For me, I'd be quite hurt and humiliated, the trust would be gone and a relationship is nothing without trust.


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Old 08-14-2008 at 05:54 PM
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I agree: It would have been so much more appropriate to ask (even beg) him to remove the mask as the Christine in the 1991 miniseries did. Erik probably wouldn't have given in though...but still yanking it off was pretty cold.
Agreed, on both things. Like someone else said, Christine should not have let her curiosity get to her like that. I mean, if he wanted her to know about his deformity, he would have unmasked himself on his own. However, since she was the one to do so, it seems to me that she did the worst thing she could have done. It also seems to me that by unmasking him, she was breaking his trust in her. Just a few of my thoughts on this.


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Old 08-18-2008 at 02:29 AM
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i agree she did cross a boundry there. she should have at least asked or sumthin. she should have waited for him to show her on his own accord.


*In every shadow there is light, in every tear a smile. In death I know there still is life that lingers for awhile.*-Anonymous

●I am but a mere black rose....I am but the shadow that cloaks the night, forever bond to darkness...yet am I really such a fright?●

"Death, that hath sucked the honey of thy breath, hath had no power yet upon thy beauty." -Romeo

"I felt myself shrinking and shriveling before her clear, candid gaze. I was once more that small boy, twisting a napkin around my finger in absolute terror that my request would be denied. Such a little thing, really, a kiss...most people don't give it a moment's consideration. They kiss on meeting, they kiss on parting, that simple touching of flesh is taken entirely for granted as a basic human right."-Erik from Susan Kay's Phantom-
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