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Old 08-20-2008 at 10:52 PM
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Wow, interesting discussion! Hmm . . . let's see . . .

My absolute favourite would have to be the one described by Gaston Leroux, and later by Susan Kay. Following close behind are Lon Chaney (since he was the closest to Leroux, and was brilliant in designing it himself) and most of the ALW stage show versions. In the case of the ALW stage show, though, I find that it tends to vary between the different productions and actors. Sometimes, a production uses the same design on every actor, and it just doesn't look as good (or bad) on someone with a different head shape.

My least favourite, like many of you, would be the one from the 2004 film . . . Julian Sands doesn't count, IMO, since he didn't have a deformity at all. Claude Rains . . . I wasn't fond of it, but at least they gave a plausible reason for it.


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Old 08-24-2008 at 05:39 PM
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I HATE the 2004 version most of all. Best for me is Chaney, Schell, and even Rains. Nastiest disfigurement makeup I have ever seen is the Two Face makeup for The Dark Knight, and Darkman. Why couldnt the ALW version been more like that, with the makeup techniques we have available today?

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Old 08-25-2008 at 01:43 AM
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Best: Leroux and ALW stage. I personally think that these best versions of the deformity that I chose makes the Phantom more pityful and tormented. I also think that the Leroux and ALW stage versions make the Phantom sexy!

Worst: G.B., C.R., and R.E.(i agree, R.E.'s deformity is lyke a Freddy Krueger remake)


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Old 08-29-2008 at 04:57 PM
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I'm reluctant to come down on the 1943 film starring Claude Rains. During that era, the general American audience and the troops had just enduring two World Wars sandwiched around a Great Depression. During this era, things were kept more light-hearted. Movies had actors smiling so big, you'd think their faces were about to explode. Also the images of "Rosie the Riveter" were still in people's minds, thus such a strong confident Christine that chooses her career over everything else. I admit, after so many hardships I've had over the past two years, I do like to watch that one more than the others. I digress...

One of my least favorite disfigurements would be the 1989 film starring Robert Englund. While the idea that his scars were inflicted by the devil himself appeals to me, I do not care for the pus and ooze. The 1980's horror films indulged in that sort of graphic gore way too much. Another least favorite is the 1998 film starring Julian Sands. I think Dario Argento was trying to make a point and thus this radical re-telling, but it should not have been titled "PoTO" as I think it could have stood on its own as another one of his gory giallo-style films.

A personal favorite of mine is in the Kopit teleplay, used in the Yeston and Kopit musical and in the 1990 mini-series starring Charles Dance. I get a guilty pleasure out of NOT reducing Erik to a "freak show." People get curious, yes, but even I felt like I learned my lesson when watching that film for the first time. Leaving it to the imagination, or at least respecting the secret Erik has with Christine regarding his visage, appeals to me. If a disfigurement must be shown, I like the illustrations by Greg Hildebrandt the best. There is also, of course, the water color paintings by Andre Castaigne. The half-mask, half-facial deformity in the movie-musical starring David Staller is pretty good, too, considering the low-budget production intended as a fundraiser.

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Old 09-27-2008 at 01:17 AM
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My favourite would have to be the Australian version of the ALW stage make-up. I can't describe it exactly, but it was paler; more flesh coloured than other worldwide deformities (South America, for example, used A LOT of red). Australia also extended the deformity across the forehead, providing extra justification for needing a wig.

I didn't mind Claude Rains' make-up; at least it covered the whole of his face! And I don't know if this counts, but I really liked in the 1990 TV version with Charles Dance how they didn't show you his face; they left it up to the viewer's imagination.

My least favourites are the 2004 film version (third degree sunburn!), the 1983 film with Maximilian Schell...and several versions of the ALW stage show....
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Old 10-04-2008 at 12:34 PM
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1. Leroux
2. Chaney
3 Michael Crawford and other ALW versions

I hate the 2004 movie makeup...


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Old 10-14-2008 at 03:01 AM
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I'm reluctant to come down on the 1943 film starring Claude Rains. During that era, the general American audience and the troops had just enduring two World Wars sandwiched around a Great Depression. During this era, things were kept more light-hearted. Movies had actors smiling so big, you'd think their faces were about to explode. Also the images of "Rosie the Riveter" were still in people's minds, thus such a strong confident Christine that chooses her career over everything else. I admit, after so many hardships I've had over the past two years, I do like to watch that one more than the others. I digress...

One of my least favorite disfigurements would be the 1989 film starring Robert Englund. While the idea that his scars were inflicted by the devil himself appeals to me, I do not care for the pus and ooze. The 1980's horror films indulged in that sort of graphic gore way too much. Another least favorite is the 1998 film starring Julian Sands. I think Dario Argento was trying to make a point and thus this radical re-telling, but it should not have been titled "PoTO" as I think it could have stood on its own as another one of his gory giallo-style films.

A personal favorite of mine is in the Kopit teleplay, used in the Yeston and Kopit musical and in the 1990 mini-series starring Charles Dance. I get a guilty pleasure out of NOT reducing Erik to a "freak show." People get curious, yes, but even I felt like I learned my lesson when watching that film for the first time. Leaving it to the imagination, or at least respecting the secret Erik has with Christine regarding his visage, appeals to me. If a disfigurement must be shown, I like the illustrations by Greg Hildebrandt the best. There is also, of course, the water color paintings by Andre Castaigne. The half-mask, half-facial deformity in the movie-musical starring David Staller is pretty good, too, considering the low-budget production intended as a fundraiser.

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Yay another fan of David Staller's deformation!

My favorite deformaties in order are:

1. Leroux
2. Chaney
3. Staller
4. Ken Hill (it was kind of nice to see Erik not get degraded in the audience's eyes for once)
5. ALW stage make-up
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Old 10-14-2008 at 08:35 AM
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My favourite would have to be the Australian version of the ALW stage make-up. I can't describe it exactly, but it was paler; more flesh coloured than other worldwide deformities (South America, for example, used A LOT of red). Australia also extended the deformity across the forehead, providing extra justification for needing a wig.
Living in Australia, that's the only deformity I have seen for the ALW stage show, but it's by far my favourite. I can only compare it to the moon... lots of 'craters'.
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Old 10-14-2008 at 06:24 PM
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Favorite deformity-
(books) Leroux and Kay
(movies) Robert Englund

Least Favorite-
Gerard Butler (he looked too smexy) <3
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Old 10-19-2008 at 01:40 AM
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I like the stage one because it is sooo well done. It looks so real and its amazing.


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