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The Phantom 04-08-2005 02:31 AM

Favorite Christine?
 
I decided to copy Heather and start a thread on everyone's favorite actress/opera singer portraying Christine Daae. Most Christine's I've heard have done an excellent job with her, with the exception one on on a London Orchestra CD I listened to once. That one was horrible...

But Emmy Rossum on the movie sounded really good, almost ghostly in her vocals. The way she can bounce up and down from deep to low, dark to soft, etc. is really enticing and amazing! Another low key Christine I've heard, though she wasn't famous, did an excellent job at a Talent competition. She didn't have the looks, but her voice was Phantom worthy.

cinty 04-12-2005 05:12 AM

Emmy Rossum, undoubtedly. I have heard two others- Sarah Brightman and Claire Moore,and they were very good too (though Claire got very screechy on the high notes) but Emmy just enbodies everything about Christine- youth, talent, innocence, naiveness, beauty.

Selenity 04-12-2005 12:03 PM

Julie Hanson is my favorite Christine. She is an amazing actress; giving Christine a backbone, and not making her some little wimp as most people portray her. Along with her youth and beauty, she has the most amazing voice.

Sincerely,
Selenity

wolfwynd 04-18-2005 10:00 PM

My favourite Christine is Rachel Barrell, her acting and her voice are absolutely amazing - she played one of the more 'angry' Christine's. I prefer this kind of Christine because I believe that underneath all the naiiveity and whatnot there is a very strong woman, which is why Erik was drawn to her in the first place I think. Plus her chemistry with JOJ is *sighs happily* ;):D

Meg Giry 04-23-2005 11:41 AM

My favourite Christine was the one I saw in Manchester - I forget her last name (I'll go look it up but it was Debra something), but she was brilliant. She had a lovely tone to her voice and she could really, really act. She had a nice balance between the opera style and the less classical style too - sort of, the more experienced on the stage Christine becomes, the more she actually performs like an opera singer.

Emmy has a very nice voice, but wasn't opera enough in some places, I think.

CĂ©cile Annelure 04-24-2005 04:07 PM

The thing about Emmy that I liked as opposed to say, Sarah Brightman, was the fact that she wasn't as operatic. Her voice is so beautiful, and she can speak much more clearly than some Sopranos I've heard.

Nothing against Sarah Brightman, though- she has a great voice!

wolfwynd 04-24-2005 07:48 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Carlotta Guidicelli
[B]My favourite Christine was the one I saw in Manchester - I forget her last name (I'll go look it up but it was Debra something)QUOTE]

you're thinking of Deborah Dutcher - yes, she is absolutely fantastic, my second favourite Christine. She sings very well and has great acting :D

Opera Ghost 04-24-2005 08:26 PM

Emmy Rossum is my favourite Christine, as I have only seen the recent film - not any stage productions or older films. Her voice and acting are both brilliant, each word she sings, each moment she makes, are executed with perfect skill and feeling. Her voice is passionate, and you can easily hear sadness or joy in her singing, whereas other people just sing. She sings with feeling. I have heard another woman singing as Christine - I don't know the name, but I will check with my friend who owns the CD I'm talking about. I would describe that Christine as a woman who just sings - there was no feeling at all in her voice.

The Khanum 04-26-2005 08:22 PM

I'm going to have to go with Emmy, too...Sarah Brightman just wasn't innocent enough. Christine has to embody youth and simple ignorance in order to pull off the part...Sarah, though a wonderfully talented singer, sounded too...well, as someone else on this thread said, operatic.

Emmy was perfect...of course, being sixteen when she filmed the role, she had the "young and innocent" thing down pat... But her voice, while "crystalline" (as my mom called it), definitely did NOT sound like she was sixteen. And yet it still had that little bit of purity vital for the role of Christine.

Sorry if none of that made sense...I was sort of rambling...

~The_Phantom_is_Sexy

Silhouette 04-27-2005 07:49 PM

I personally love Julie Hanson and Sandra Joseph who both play christine on broadway. Both have amazing captivating voices

Sarah and Emmy both did amazing jobs as well, Emmy's voice just seemed a bit weak in comparison to the others and Sarah, well she is just simply amazing too but I just prefer julie and sandra

IamErik771 05-01-2005 12:07 AM

I am completely in love with Emmy. Her acting was great, she has an awesome voice, and looks absolutely stunning. I also like Sarah Brightman's voice. I think my favorite stage Christines (voice-wise; I've never seen the show) are Celia Graham and Reiko Nomura (1988 Japanese cast).

Christine Daaé 05-18-2005 01:57 AM

Don't stone me, guys, but I couldn't stand Emmy. I don't like her inflections, and to me, anyway, her voice is passionless, at least up until "Point of No Return". She does a great job, singing- and acting-wise, from that point on, but up until then, she's just unbearable. Please don't stone me, please don't stone me!

Sarah Brightman I adore. See, the thing is, I've always thought Christine had to have an abnormally mature voice for a girl her age. Emmy just doesn't have that. I know Sarah was 29 when she portrayed Christine, but I like them older.

~ Zelda de le FantĂ´me

Always_Erik_Fan 05-22-2005 01:01 AM

*hugs Zelda* Hey, everyone is entitled to their own opinions; don't worry about being stoned!

I must say that I really prefer Emmy Rossum to Sarah Brightman (haven't heard any other Christines) because I just like her voice better. Keep in mind, I am NO singer. ~lol~ I just like the innocence in her voice. :) Anyways, that's my opinion!

cinty 05-22-2005 08:23 AM

I've had a change of heart since I last posted about Emmy being my favourite. I still love Emmy alot, but I have to say now that Sarah is my favourite. It's come from listening to her soundtrack more and seeing photos of her. I think she is extraordinarily beautiful, (so is Emmy) and her voice is absolutely outstanding. After all, she was who the role was written for. Her high notes in "The P hantom of the Opera" are truly amazing. Emmy does a good job, but you can sort of hear her struggling with them. Sarah soars right up and HITS that note at the end, sooooo beautifully.
I guess, at the end of the day, I would have to say they tie. But if I HAD to chose, I would say Sarah.
and now, Zelda dear, we won't stone you. *hugs, chocolates and nuts to you* :)

Requiem 05-29-2005 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by Zelda de le Fantome
Don't stone me, guys, but I couldn't stand Emmy. I don't like her inflections, and to me, anyway, her voice is passionless, at least up until "Point of No Return". She does a great job, singing- and acting-wise, from that point on, but up until then, she's just unbearable. Please don't stone me, please don't stone me!

Sarah Brightman I adore. See, the thing is, I've always thought Christine had to have an abnormally mature voice for a girl her age. Emmy just doesn't have that. I know Sarah was 29 when she portrayed Christine, but I like them older.

~ Zelda de le FantĂ´me

THNAK YOU! Someone else who shares my opinion, I'm SO happy!

I didn't think Emmy was shocking or anything, but I did think she wasn't anything outstanding, and she needed to be outstanding to play Christine. Granted, the role of Christine is a hell demanding one, and Emmy was fine at singing "normally", but when she had to reach the high notes, she was struggling, and you could tell as her voice stretched and got a little thin and screechy (well I thought so anyway). Her voice is fine when she doesn't need to push it too hard, but when she does, it does not sound cool. For example, in "Think of Me", Emmy sounds fine up until the line "once again you long, to take your HEART back and be free", but that note sounds pretty strained and strangled, like she's really trying hard to get up there. Listen to Sarah B - she doesn't even make an effort, her voice just soars there so easily.

Emmy was quite good in "Wishing you were Somehow Here Again", because it's a less Operatic song. I can appreciate that Emmy does not have an Operatic voice, so of course she won't hit those notes like an Opera Singer, but I think, if she's to play Christine, who is considered oustandingly gifted, especially for her age, then she should be better. Sorry, please don't flame me, it's my opinion.

sing_for_me 05-29-2005 05:16 PM

I'm not sure I've heard enough Christines to say that I have a favorite, but I quite like Anna Maria Kaufman, the original Hamburg Christine. She has very strong, clear voice. She does have a mature voice, but I feel she has a bit of that edge of innocence some of us are looking for.

Plus, she can hit the high notes. Hit them well. That's always a plus. ;)

As to Emmy, I liked her at first, but after listening to her on a regular basis (soundtrack) I've really grown to dislike her. I really can't stand her voice until about what would be the 2nd Act. I detest her Think of Me. She cannot hit the high notes, in that song at least. (I do like her PONR, which goes, eh, pretty high. ;) )

cinty 05-30-2005 08:03 AM

Emmy does struggle with the high notes alot, especially in Think of Me. Sarah does just soar and hit those notes, beautifully. Plus they had to cut out the 4th verse of the theme song because that is in a higher key and Emmy couldn't take the singing at the end so high. That is why I now prefer Sarah.
But I still love my dear little Emmy. :)

operafreak84 08-13-2005 06:01 AM

My favorite Christines...well, this will be fun:D

1. Rebecca Caine - a gorgeous, clear, pure soprano that is exactly how I think Christine should sound. Her cadenza is the best I've ever heard and unlike several Christines, instead of scooping and sliding into the notes, she actually HITS them. And she's one of the few people I've heard on a cast recording who sings like they're onstage.

2. Sarah Lawrence - probably the most ELEGANT Christine I've ever heard. She's very mature and proper sounding and it's wonderful. Like Rebecca, she has a very clear voice, like a bell, and she's WONDERFUL at expressing emotion.

3. Celia Graham - my favorite youthful-sounding Christine. Celia has a very light, innocent-sounding voice, quite childish at times, but incredibly lovely. Her vocal chemistry with JOJ is great and she has one of the most unique "Twisted Every Way" I've ever heard.

I would post more, but I think this is long enough as it is. I'll probably talk about more of my favorite Christines in a later post.

cinty 08-26-2005 02:20 PM

I loved reading your list operafreak. I have never heard of Sarah Lawrence. Could you show me a picture of her sometime? I love hearing/seeing new great Christine's.
And now I have to say that Rebecca Caine has become my favourite Christine. She just awes me, with- well, operafreak has basically described the reasons I love her! :)

The_Persian 08-27-2005 01:25 AM

I love Emmy Rossum. She is young, innocent, beautiful, and naiive... all the things that Christine is supposed to be! The only thing is, I wish that she didn't have this open mouthed look of wounder on CONSTANTLY! has anyone else noticed that? Her mouth is always open!

Anyway, I think SB's voice is excellent, but not quite innocent enough for christine.

I also love the woman who sing the french version on POTO 2004! If you hav'nt listened to it yet, you defenitly should! She's really good too!

operafreak84 08-27-2005 04:06 AM

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Originally posted by The_Persian



I also love the woman who sing the french version on POTO 2004! If you hav'nt listened to it yet, you defenitly should! She's really good too!


Eh...I didn't really like Cecilia Cara. She was a pop singer trying to go classical. It didn't work.

Phantomgirl05 08-27-2005 07:29 PM

I'm only familiar with Emmy and Sarah, but I prefer Emmy over Sarah, just for the voice. While Sarah has a brilliant voice, her voice was too nasal-sounding, and there were often times when you couldn't understand what she was singing. That was kind of annoying.

Emmy's voice, on the other hand, is pure and youthful but yet does not sound as though she is having a bad cold or having a hard time breathing. You could understand Emmy perfectly throughout the entire film for that reason.

So Emmy for me. I wish I've seen more productions though so I could compare the other Christines as well.

Night feather 08-27-2005 08:01 PM

Well Emmy Rossum completely had the looks and everything, and I really think she has a very lovely voice, as Steve said she can both hit the low and the high notes, though her voice lacked at someplaces, for example in think of me. She has a great fill to her voice.

Though my favorite would have to be Rachel Barrell as well, she dosn't look as innocent as Emmy, but I absolutely love her voice, and she is very beautiful as well.

operafreak84 08-27-2005 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by Night feather
Well Emmy Rossum completely had the looks and everything, and I really think she has a very lovely voice, as Steve said she can both hit the low and the high notes, though her voice lacked at someplaces, for example in think of me. She has a great fill to her voice.

Though my favorite would have to be Rachel Barrell as well, she dosn't look as innocent as Emmy, but I absolutely love her voice, and she is very beautiful as well.

Sorry, but I'm afraid that I'm going to have to disagree with that. I really, really dislike Rachel Barrell's voice. She doesn't sing, she belts. Her TOM cadenza is practically shrieked and she doesn't use a soprano voice half the time. That's not to say that she can't sing. I just don't think Christine was the right role for her. Since she's a belter, she would probably make a good Eponine. Her acting is great, though. Ripping off that veil during "HAAAAAAATTTTEEEE" was something I'd never seen before.

IamErik771 08-27-2005 10:57 PM

Okay, now that I've heard many more Christines, here are my favorites, in no particular order:

Sarah Brightman
Emmy Rossum
Rebecca Caine
Celia Graham
Rachel Barrell
Katie Knight-Adams
Reiko Nomura
Lisa Vroman
Deborah Dutcher
Julie Hanson
Sandra Joseph
Jana Werner (German dub of the film)

And knowing my memory, I've probably forgotten someone... :rolleyes:

Night feather 08-27-2005 11:16 PM

Nope wait a sec.... I maybe think it was celia graham I saw... Oh ****ing hell I can't remember if it was Rachel Barrell I saw, Oh curse my memory from when I was thirteen..

I cannot remember, who ever I saw was my favorite.

IamErik771 08-27-2005 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by Night feather
Nope wait a sec.... I maybe think it was celia graham I saw... Oh ****ing hell I can't remember if it was Rachel Barrell I saw, Oh curse my memory from when I was thirteen..

I cannot remember, who ever I saw was my favorite.

Hmm... Can you rememmber what she sounded like at all? Did her voice sound very youthful and innocent, or stronger and more mature? If it was more youthful, it was probably Celia.

operafreak84 08-27-2005 11:41 PM

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Originally posted by Night feather
Nope wait a sec.... I maybe think it was celia graham I saw... Oh ****ing hell I can't remember if it was Rachel Barrell I saw, Oh curse my memory from when I was thirteen..

I cannot remember, who ever I saw was my favorite.


Celia's voice is very youthful and pure. Her notes are very light and flowy, almost a bit nasally at the end. She perfectly fits the definition of a light lyric soprano.

I'm not sure what Rachel is. She has a ton of alto in her and her cadenza is almost shrieked, indicating she had trouble hitting the notes properly.

Suffice it to say that I much prefer Celia.

Night feather 08-28-2005 08:49 AM

No I really can't remember, it's crap.

I was thirteen, and I had never seen theatre of that kaliber before so I was just completely spell bound, the only thing I remember is that I thought they all sung so fantastic. Sorry ::embarrased grin::

cinty 08-28-2005 09:00 AM

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Originally posted by IamErik771
Okay, now that I've heard many more Christines, here are my favorites, in no particular order:

Sarah Brightman
Emmy Rossum
Rebecca Caine
Celia Graham
Rachel Barrell
Katie Knight-Adams
Reiko Nomura
Lisa Vroman
Deborah Dutcher
Julie Hanson
Sandra Joseph
Jana Werner (German dub of the film)

And knowing my memory, I've probably forgotten someone... :rolleyes:

Out of that list, I've heard
Sarah Brightman
Emmy Rossum
Rebecca Caine
Katie Knight-Adams
Julie Hanson

and I've also heard...
Dale Kristien
Marina Prior
Claire Moore
Karen Culliver
And I think I've forgotten the others... I know I've heard more.

My favourites are Sarah Brightman, Rebecca Caine, Emmy Rossum, Julie Hanson and Dale Kristien.:)

operafreak84 08-28-2005 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by cinty
Out of that list, I've heard
Sarah Brightman
Emmy Rossum
Rebecca Caine
Katie Knight-Adams
Julie Hanson

and I've also heard...
Dale Kristien
Marina Prior
Claire Moore
Karen Culliver
And I think I've forgotten the others... I know I've heard more.

My favourites are Sarah Brightman, Rebecca Caine, Emmy Rossum, Julie Hanson and Dale Kristien.:)

You've also heard Rebecca Luker. She was the Christine in the Steve Barton clip. And I made a mistake awhile ago. The Christine in the JOJ clips was Rachel Barrell, not Katie Knight Adams. Sorry 'bout that.

cinty 08-31-2005 02:09 PM

Oh okay. So, I have never heard Katie Knight Adams, but I have heard Rachel Barrel. And now I have heard Celia Graham as well, who I must add to my favourites. Beautiful!!!

Ms Christine Daae 10-15-2005 05:18 AM

Sarah Brightman IS Christine for me. Lisa Vroman and Sandra Joseph both rock. Rebecca Pitcher is brilliant as well.

sunshine 11-21-2005 10:49 PM

I have to agree with Zelda and Manda all the way I love Sarah Brightmans voice she sings each note Beautifuly and to its fullest. Emmy looked as if she was struggling to sing the high notes like in think of me, but Sarah just let the music flow right out of her. Emmy was ok but for the most part she almost looked as if she were lip singing, I didnt like her voice at all. Sarah B. is and always will be Christine for me. :D

phantomphreak 11-21-2005 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by sunshine
I have to agree with Zelda and Manda all the way I love Sarah Brightmans voice she sings each note Beautifuly and to its fullest. Emmy looked as if she was struggling to sing the high notes like in think of me, but Sarah just let the music flow right out of her. Emmy was ok but for the most part she almost looked as if she were lip singing, I didnt like her voice at all. Sarah B. is and always will be Christine for me. :D
Well, she is lipsynching (sp?) during the movie. They had to record it before and then they sang quietly during the recording of the movie itself. The recording of their voices was put over the quiet ones. Everyone in the movie is lipsynching. But it is their voice except for Carlotta (Minnie Driver).

And as for my opinion, I like both Emmy's and Sarah's voices but I'm drawn more toward Emmy. I think she did a brilliant job!

sunshine 11-21-2005 11:38 PM

Sorry didnt know they were sping but thats the thing Sarah wouldnt need to sp I still like Sarahs voice better :D but Emmy did ok.

Lia Lecordier 11-23-2005 02:58 AM

By far, I must say, Emmy Rossum is definately. I love her dynamic contrast and articulations. She is simply wonderful. :cd9:

Learn2BLonely 12-04-2005 08:34 PM

Emmy Rossum, is undoubtedly my favorite. I have heard Sarah Brightman, whose voice while beautiful did not seem like Christine Daae to me. Emmy, I feel, being a fav actress of mine embodies the innocence & beauty of Christine Daae that Brightman just does not have. Emmy is Christine to me. Her voice is spectacular, I loved it from the very beginning when I heard her.

angelofmusic9731 12-04-2005 10:06 PM

Zelda! I think you are funny! I do like Emmy. She seemed very innocent to me but i must agree with Zelda that at points her acting was well... cheesy! However Sarah had a atrong quality alomost confidence that i think Emmy lacked. Emmy was an inccredible singer though she was beautiful.
" Down once more to the dungeouns of my black despair! Down we plunge to the prison of my mind..." -Phantom

yumi_chan89 04-18-2006 07:17 AM

Vocally, I adore Sandra Joseph and Lisa Vroman's Christine. Although they are older than twenty, they both have a youthful sound to them.
Sandra Joseph has such emotion in her singing that it makes you shiver. Her vibratto is almost flowing and dove-like that it makes an interesting song.
Lisa Vroman has more dark tones and pronounciation that it makes it enjoyable to listen to.

As for the look of Christine, I like Julie Hanson and Claudia Cota Gamez (although there isn't too much information on her).
Julie is how I pictured Leroux's Christine (yes, yes, I know she was a blonde). Julie has a very young and innocent look to her naturally.
Claudia has a hard look to her, which is quite different for Christine. However, it makes her look tough and not so innocent and niave. She's quite pretty, too, which always makes a good Christine.

And as for acting? Celia Graham all the way. No doubts about it. Her acting in Point of No Return was so fierce and seductive, yet over powering with confusing and fear for the Phantom at the same time. I've yet to see another actress do this!


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